Cassie Kozyrkov or Jonathan Mall: Which Keynote Speaker for Your Event?

Two speakers with the same rare promise: your audience walks out better equipped for AI, not merely entertained by it. One taught 20,000 Googlers how to decide in the age of algorithms and is credited with founding Decision Intelligence. The other is a neuropsychologist who builds the AI he demonstrates live on stage. Here is the comparison we’d want if we were booking a keynote ourselves — fees included, both of them.
Full disclosure: this page is published by Dr. Jonathan Mall’s team — yes, that’s a conflict of interest. So we hold ourselves to three rules: every factual claim is sourced, Cassie Kozyrkov’s strengths are stated without hedging, and we tell you plainly when she is the better booking. If we ever fail at that, email us and we’ll fix it.
Cassie Kozyrkov
Spent nearly a decade at Google, where the role of Chief Decision Scientist was created for her, and personally trained more than 20,000 Googlers in data-driven decision-making. Credited with founding the discipline of Decision Intelligence. Longtime #1 writer in AI on Medium, 600,000+ LinkedIn followers; has keynoted in 40+ countries and advised Gucci, NASA, Spotify and Meta.[1][4][7]
Dr. Jonathan Mall
PhD in cognitive neuropsychology; co-founder & Chief Innovation Officer of neuroflash — Europe’s market-leading AI content platform, almost 2 million registered users — which shipped its AI writer 1.5 years before ChatGPT. Demonstrates the technology live on stage. Featured by BBC, ARD Tagesthemen and N-tv.[9][13]
The short version
Most people land here checking Cassie Kozyrkov’s fee. Bureau listings put it in the mid-five to low-six figures (US$) per keynote[3] — and for that budget she is one of the most credible AI bookings alive: Google’s first Chief Decision Scientist, a trained statistician who makes rigor genuinely funny, and a marquee name that sells tickets to any English-language flagship event.
Dr. Jonathan Mall’s keynotes run in the mid four figures (€) — a fraction of Kozyrkov’s bureau-listed rate — depending on format and customization (exact quote within 48 hours). The deeper difference is the room each speaker transforms. Both equip rather than merely inspire; the question is who and how. Kozyrkov hands executives and data leaders decision frameworks for the AI era. Mall hands marketing and insights teams live demonstrations: digital twins of your customers, on-stage experiments, and a method your team can use the following Monday — with an optional half-day workshop that typically still lands below a celebrity keynote alone.
Side by side, at a glance
| Cassie Kozyrkov | Dr. Jonathan Mall | |
|---|---|---|
| Core promise | Upgrade how your organization makes decisions in the AI era — rigorous frameworks, delivered with humor | Predict what your customers will do — with neuropsychology plus AI digital twins, demonstrated live |
| Fee range | $50,000–$100,000 live; $30,000–$50,000 virtual (bureau-listed, US$)[3] | Mid four figures (€) for European keynotes; exact quote in 48h. Keynote + half-day workshop bundles available |
| Background | Mathematical statistician (economics & statistics; Univ. of Chicago, NC State, Duke — psychology/neuroeconomics, Distinguished Alumna); ~10 years at Google, first Chief Decision Scientist 2018–2023[1][7] | PhD cognitive neuropsychology (Univ. of Groningen); co-founded neuroflash, Europe’s leading AI content platform (~2M registered users), building LLMs since 2019[13] |
| Books & writing | No traditionally published book (yet) — instead 200+ articles, longtime #1 writer in AI on Medium, HBR contributor, and a free 6.5-hour AI course that began as Google-internal training[1][8] | No bestselling books either — publishes open methodology & case studies instead |
| Signature talks | “The Future is AI-First: Are You Ready to Lead?” · “AI Won’t Steal Your Job, But It Will Steal Your Excuses” · “Why Businesses Fail at AI Adoption”[3][4][5] | “Digital Twins: The Future of Market Research” · “Consumers Buy Weird: Neuroscience Meets AI” · “From Chatbot to AI Operating System”[9] |
| On-stage style | Statistical rigor with a comedian’s timing; plain-language frameworks that stick (“AI removes every bottleneck except your judgment”) — story- and framework-driven, no live tool demos[1][4] | Live experiments with the audience; demonstrates AI tools on stage in real time — with an offline fallback prepared[9] |
| Audience focus | Senior executives, data & analytics leadership, AI strategy and governance | Marketing, brand, insights & sales teams; innovation events |
| Languages | English (interpretation can be arranged via her bureaus)[6] | German, English, Dutch |
| Best for | Global flagship events where a marquee Google name drives registrations and the brief is AI-era decision-making | Marketing & insights events that want AI shown live, not just described |
What Jonathan Mall does differently
Jonathan Mall shares Kozyrkov’s core conviction — an AI keynote should leave the audience more capable, with something they can actually use — but he aims it at a different room. He earned a PhD in cognitive neuropsychology, then spent a decade turning the science into working software as co-founder and Chief Innovation Officer of neuroflash — Europe’s market-leading AI content-generation platform, with almost 2 million registered users.[13] His team has been building language models since 2019 and shipped its AI writer a year and a half before ChatGPT made generative AI a household name.[13] Where Kozyrkov equips decision-makers with frameworks, Mall equips marketers with running tools: AI “digital twins” of target audiences, grounded in large-scale survey data, that let brands pre-test campaigns, covers and claims before launch — built and queried live on stage.
The keynote signature is showing, not telling. In the keynote below, German publisher Verlagsgruppe Oetinger tested a new game’s cover, claim and shelf presence with digital twins before printing — the published case reports 92% agreement with the parallel classical market research study.[11] That case validates Mall’s own method; for the state of the wider field, Kantar’s analysis of synthetic data in market research is a sober independent primer.[12] Mall also says openly where digital twins don’t work yet — exactly what you want from a speaker covering an emerging technology. Content is tool-agnostic: no product pitch from the stage.
The trade-offs are real: no Google on the résumé, no 600,000-follower channel, a fraction of Kozyrkov’s global reach. What he offers instead is the practitioner’s seat and the consumer’s lens — the quirks of consumer psychology paired with the quirks of AI itself, the kind of practical “how to actually work with these models” insight that only comes from seven years of shipping them. Digital twins, AI operating systems and AI search visibility as they exist right now, demonstrated live, in German, English or Dutch.[9]
Live case: pre-testing a product launch with digital twins. English case write-up with all numbers.
Planning an English-language event? A full-length English keynote recording is available on request — ask via the booking page and it’s in your inbox the same day.
Keynote (45–60 min)
Main-stage or leadership meeting. Live AI demos tailored to your industry and audience; interactive experiments with the room.
Keynote + Workshop
Half-day hands-on session for marketing/insights teams after the keynote: build and query digital twins on your own use cases. The bundle typically costs less than a celebrity keynote alone.
Virtual / Hybrid
Remote keynote with the same live demos, screen-shared. Reduced fee; useful for distributed teams and global town halls.
Moderated the lively follow-up discussion with great composure — the audience feedback was outstanding.
Stefan Staat BAUHAUS AG
Very inspiring and exciting — expert content, delivered both charmingly and informatively.
Katharina Schmidmaier WEFRA LIFE
Exciting insights, perfectly tailored to our timeframe, with strong audience engagement.
Ann-Katrin Hilker hmmh AG
Translated from German; originals on jonathanmall.com[9]. References for organizer-to-organizer calls available on request.
What makes Cassie Kozyrkov special
Let’s be clear about the scale here: Cassie Kozyrkov may be the most credible voice on AI-era decision-making anywhere on the circuit. Google hired her as a statistician in 2014 and created the role of Chief Decision Scientist for her in 2018 — the first in the company’s history — a post she held until 2023, personally training more than 20,000 Googlers in data-driven decision-making and shaping over 500 company initiatives along the way.[1][7] She is widely credited with founding and popularizing Decision Intelligence — a vocabulary for combining data science with human judgment that Gartner and much of the industry have since adopted.[1][7] Behind the stagecraft sits a trained mathematical statistician: economics and statistics degrees, graduate work at the University of Chicago, NC State and Duke, where her work in psychology and neuroeconomics earned a Distinguished Alumna award.[7]
Her teaching reach is just as rare. She has written 200+ articles, was the #1 writer in AI on Medium for years, and counts 600,000+ LinkedIn followers; her free 6.5-hour machine-learning course — born as Google-internal training — has become one of the most-watched AI explainers anywhere.[1][4][8] She has keynoted in 40+ countries on all seven continents, from the UN and the World Economic Forum to Web Summit and SXSW, and advised brands like Gucci, NASA, Spotify, Meta and GSK.[1][4] On stage she pairs statistical rigor with genuine comedy timing and leaves executives feeling smarter about AI instead of scared of it — with a durable mental model (“AI removes every bottleneck except your judgment”) in place of hype. Worth knowing when you book: there is no traditionally published Kozyrkov book to hand attendees — she has toyed with writing one in public — her flagship publications are the course and the article archive.[8] Her keynotes run on frameworks and stories, with no live tool demos, and she presents in English only, with interpretation arranged via her bureaus.[6]
“Keynote: Cassie Kozyrkov, Fmr. Chief Decision Scientist, Google” — a recent, complete main-stage talk.
Her famous free AI course, formerly Google-internal training, on her own channel — included to show her teaching style; a course rather than a stage keynote.
Where each one wins
Book Kozyrkov when…
- Senior executives or data & analytics leaders need a credible, rigorous mental model for AI-era decision-making — and the Google name matters to your CEO
- It’s a global English-language flagship event where a marquee name drives ticket sales
- The core problem is AI strategy and governance — why AI projects fail, what to automate, how leaders should decide — rather than marketing or customer insight
- You want frameworks with hard statistical training behind them, delivered with genuine humor by the person who defined the discipline
Book Mall when…
- Your audience should see AI working live on stage — built, tested and demonstrated in real time
- The audience is marketers, brand, insights or sales teams: consumer psychology, neuromarketing, AI digital twins for market research
- You need native German (or Dutch) delivery for DACH and Benelux events
- You want practitioner credibility from someone who ships AI products to almost 2 million users — at roughly a quarter to half of Kozyrkov’s bureau-listed rate
Where they sit in the speaker landscape
Every speaker in this territory balances two questions: do they talk about people or about technology — and do they aim to inspire or to equip? Our read, based on each speaker’s published talks and positioning — tap or hover any avatar for the one-line case. Dot size reflects typical fee tier.
Equip · methods & how-toInspire · vision & storiesHuman psychologyAI & technologyLindstromMartin LindstromNeuromarketing & small data storytelling · celebrity tierSutherlandRory SutherlandBehavioral science & advertising alchemy · celebrity tierArielyDan ArielyBehavioral economics research · premium tierDooleyRoger DooleyPractical neuromarketing & friction · mid tierGawdatMo GawdatAI, ethics & happiness · celebrity tierLeonhardGerd LeonhardFuturist: technology vs. humanity · premium tierSchickNina SchickGenerative AI & deepfakes analyst · premium tierMallJonathan MallNeuroscience × applied AI; digital twins, live demos · premium tier
Questions organizers actually ask
How much does Cassie Kozyrkov charge for a keynote?
US bureaus list her at $50,000–$100,000 for live events and $30,000–$50,000 for virtual sessions (All American Speakers, 2026).[3] International travel can push fees higher. Jonathan Mall’s keynotes are typically in the mid four figures (€) — a fraction of that — with an exact quote within 48 hours via the booking page. For the wider picture, see our guide: What does an AI keynote speaker cost in 2026?
What does Cassie Kozyrkov speak about?
AI-first leadership, decision intelligence, why businesses fail at AI adoption, and upgrading decision-making at scale.[3][4] Her lens is the executive’s: how leaders should think and decide in the AI era. Jonathan’s lens is the consumer’s: how AI and human psychology collide in marketing, demonstrated live on stage.
Who is a good alternative to Cassie Kozyrkov?
If you loved her rigor but need a speaker who shows AI working live, speaks to marketing and insights audiences, and covers neuromarketing and AI digital twins, Jonathan Mall is a strong alternative — a PhD neuropsychologist who co-founded neuroflash, Europe’s market-leading AI content platform with almost 2 million registered users, building LLM products since 2019.[13]
What languages does each speaker present in?
Kozyrkov delivers keynotes in English only (interpretation can be arranged via her bureaus).[6] Jonathan presents natively in German, plus fluent English and Dutch — a practical advantage for DACH and Benelux events.
Does Cassie Kozyrkov do workshops or customized sessions?
Through Kozyr she offers advisory work and online courses alongside keynotes; bureau listings focus on keynote formats.[2][4] Jonathan routinely pairs keynotes with hands-on workshops — live AI tooling, digital-twin research sprints, and prompt-craft sessions tailored to your team’s actual campaigns.
Which speaker fits a marketing or insights conference better?
Kozyrkov is strongest for executive AI strategy and data-leadership audiences. For marketing, branding, CX, or consumer-research events, Jonathan’s combination of neuromarketing science and on-stage AI demos maps more directly to the audience’s daily work. And because live demos are the core of his talk, they’re de-risked like production software: every demo has an offline fallback prepared, the talk runs without venue Wi-Fi, and the only requirement is standard conference A/V (HDMI + sound).
Checking dates for an AI or consumer-psychology keynote?
Get Jonathan’s availability, an exact quote, a tailored outline and an English keynote recording within 48 hours — or honest advice that another speaker (maybe Kozyrkov) fits your brief better.
About the author: Dr. Jonathan T. Mall is a cognitive neuropsychologist, co-founder and Chief Innovation Officer of neuroflash — Europe’s market-leading AI content platform with almost 2 million registered users, building language models since 2019. For 20 years he has worked at the intersection of brands, communication and cognitive research; on stage he demonstrates the quirks of consumers and the quirks of AI, live.
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Sources
- Cassie Kozyrkov — official bio at Kozyr (Google’s first Chief Decision Scientist, 20,000+ Googlers trained, 500+ initiatives, Decision Intelligence, writing record, client list). kozyr.com/about
- Kozyr — Cassie Kozyrkov’s decision-intelligence practice (keynotes, advisory, courses). kozyr.com
- All American Speakers — Cassie Kozyrkov fee listing ($50,000–$100,000 live; $30,000–$50,000 virtual) and keynote topics. allamericanspeakers.com
- BigSpeak — Cassie Kozyrkov profile (bio, topics, reach; fees “please inquire”). bigspeak.com
- Aurum Bureau — Cassie Kozyrkov profile (keynote topic variants). aurumbureau.com
- London Speaker Bureau (US) — Cassie Kozyrkov profile (presentation language: English). us.londonspeakerbureau.com
- Wikipedia — Cassie Kozyrkov (Google timeline: statistician 2014, first Chief Decision Scientist 2018, departure September 2023; education). en.wikipedia.org; departure also covered by Fortune (September 2023)
- Cassie Kozyrkov — “Let’s Write a Decision Intelligence Book… Maybe?” (her own post; confirms no traditionally published book). kozyrkov.medium.com; her current writing home: decision.substack.com
- Dr. Jonathan Mall — keynotes, credentials, languages, testimonials (German originals). jonathanmall.com/en
- Jonathan Mall fee band: published by his own team on this page; exact quotes via the booking page, answered within 48 hours.
- Digital Twins Case Study: Verlagsgruppe Oetinger × neuroflash — 92% agreement with the parallel classical market research study (method and all numbers in the write-up). jonathanmall.com. Note: this validates Mall’s own method on one published case.
- Kantar — “Synthetic Data: The Real Deal?” (independent analysis of synthetic respondents vs. human data; field-level evidence, not specific to neuroflash). kantar.com
- neuroflash GmbH — Europe’s market-leading AI content-generation platform; almost 2 million registered users; building language models since 2019; AI writer launched early 2021, roughly 1.5 years before ChatGPT (Nov 2022). neuroflash.com
Last updated June 2026. Fee data changes; always confirm current quotes with the speakers’ teams. Spotted an error? Tell us and we’ll correct it.